Lawless Roleplay

Ryder Murdoc
Ryder Murdoc
this version is also nice
Vinz
Vinz
I can't seem to find a good estimate number for the albanians who fought in gallipoli. Some sources say 27 while others claim over 20k, it's really weird.
Ryder Murdoc
Ryder Murdoc
You should take a look in Ottoman translated documents in Ankara or Istanbul digital libraries, there was an aprox martyr count of 250-300k from the Ottoman side, while some western documents claims it was 50.000, to me it feels like the numbers shown by western sources are downplayed to "minimize" damages after it was considered this was a blunder from Churchills' side
Vinz
Vinz
I wonder how you feel about this guy, I am sure you know about him being half albanian half turkish.
Ryder Murdoc
Ryder Murdoc
It is a long story, he committed treason by betraying the Sultan Abdulhamit, then he and Talaat often visited the sultan to apologize after they realized that the Young Turks acted in European interests, and frequently consulted to his advice on how things should be done